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Stan Stan's icon
 2007-07-30 21:04:15
Hi,

This is just a quickie to all begginers. I have been going through a bit of a bad patch in this hobby and it really has started to get to me, not enough to give up no way! but enough to be less interested in flying and more sitting about smoking or eating!!! smilie

What my problem is, is that i can steer the helicopter around the sky doing loop and rolls in a fashion. and a bit of pitch pumping and a few pathetic metronomes. But i didnt seem to progress from this stage, as i still struggle with some orentations.

So i have decided to go back to basics and stick the sticks back on and learn to fly properly and skillfully. As i am struggling to fly low figure of eights at the same height smooth it really isnt that boring. Just fustrating. And if you keep it less than 6 inches off the ground you cant break it.

What i am getting at is this; Dont run before you can walk. I did and have tripped up many times and without the great bunch of guys at the peatling club i would have given up by now.

Good Luck!

P.s I here you are off your sticks now Gwyri. Your doing better than me im going backwards. (Not flying backwards either smilie )

Stan
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Sceadu Abuser Sceadu Abuser's icon
 2007-07-30 21:55:56
Hi Stan

The basics can seem like hard work at times, Slow controlled flight can be harder than aggressive 3D. But it will help you into 3D and make a better pilot of you. A slow pirouetting circuit or figure eight, 6 inches off the ground requires finessing the cyclics and collective management. Both of these are needed to get the most out of a model in 3D flight. Watch Curtis, he is legendary for being accurate.

P.S Shouldn’t you be practicing on the sim instead of on here! smilie
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Alvin Alvin's icon
 2007-07-31 02:08:21
stan to be honest with you,a large number of intermediate level pilots can't do absolutely all the tricky "homework"stuff,most folk can do a good many of them,but you will find that some can do one that another can't and vice versa,and some can do stuff only one way,i myself can do the pirouetting circuit,but not the pirouetting eight,it's something i got side tracked from and never cracked.this is why we are still intermediate! at competition level,there isn't much they can't do,but we have a long way to go before we get there!

I am going to go out on a limb here and list some of the things that many average people have great difficulty with because they skipped it when learning,who are in fact capable pilots,and can do all sorts of fancy stuff in the air,and these are not 3d maneuvers by any means. These are the things you should try to get perfected where possible.

1: nose in hover low down,many folk won't do this unless they are high up

2: side on hover, the number of pilots who can't do this is staggering.

3: a PROPER pirouette,a lot of people can't actually"fly" the pirouette

4: take off and land nose in,a large number cannot do this,it is sometimes necessary

5: fly left to right or right to left in a straight line in front of them,this is important.

6: anything that is backwards,a hell of a lot don't bother to learn anything backwards before inverted!

7: nose in hover to the far left or right,45 degree angle view point,nose facing the pits.this is tricky

8: nose in hover,to the far left or right,nose facing the pilots left or right body side

9: side ways flight from left to right or vice versa in a straight line tail in

10: sideways flight from left to right or vice versa in a straight line nose in.



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TREX-TOTTY TREX-TOTTY's icon
 2007-08-12 21:33:28
If I can add my little comment,I have really struggled this year with pretty much everything mostly because of the wearther so I wouldn't beat yourself up too much as everyone I know feels the same.

I do agree with alot of the comment's as I feel what "we call presition hovering" dose seem to be more difficult than the 3d stuff we try be there again the 3d stuff we try isn't perfect either.

Don't be too down hearted we have chosen a difficult hobby,you could alway fly plank's smilie

Cheers.
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Helidude Helidude's icon
 2007-08-12 21:59:05
I agree.
I wonder just how many pilots can actually do the clever hovering basics these days. Like a nose in to tail in figure of eight.. And what about that pilots prominarde. All that is, is hovering a heli in one spot.. simple... not! Walking around it makes a whole new challenge. I know people who can do all the stick bending 3d, but when they had to do a B certificate, they could not do the top hat side on.

Be patient and learn the basics which is what Curtis Youngblood said on an old Video he made. These do make a better pilot i think. But DON'T go to the Dark Side, by getting a balsa plank.. Maybe do that when you are old and retired and half brain dead. Helis is for young thinking alert people who like to challenge and better them selves. Planks are for those who know their limitations and submit to them smilie
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